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of the united states shooting a guy in the face. there's a reason george w. bush left office in january 2009 with the lowest approval rating for an outgoing president since galt started asking that question back in the 1930s. and frankly, the vice president, dick cheney, would have killed to get numbers that high. his approval rating was 13% when he left office. part of the headwind that john mccain had running in 2008, trying to run as a republican after george w. bush and dick janney was george w. bush and dick cheney. the country was happy to see them go for understandable reasons. four years after the bush/cheney administration, the new republican party nominee, mitt romney, has made precisely zero public appearanced with george w. bush or dick cheney. this is still the most interesting thing in american politics. the reconstruction of the republican party post-george w. bush and post-dick cheney is as yet incomplete and still the most interesting thing to watch. hot is the new republican party going to be after that? what is the new republican party leadership going to be after them? al
presidential election, george h.w. bush released 14 years of his tax returns going back to 1973. there's no exact number of years that is the standard. but when mitt romney says the president is that you don't have to release much in the way of tax returns, just a couple years will do it, that's not true. the obama campaign released this chart this week showing how many years worth of tax returns the last four presidents released as they campaigned for office. they're putting this out because they think mr. romney has been wrong when he asserted he's following precedent. he released eight years. george w. bush released ten. clinton released 12 years. poppy bush released 14 years. then they added on another guy, the last blue column, that is george romney, who is just a candidate for president. he of course never became president, but he is mitt romney's dad. so what's normal in presidential politics is to release many years of your tax returns. the romney campaign if they cont wanted to could come back and say all those people who became president and my dad released more than five yea
of you keeping track at home, this is what president george w. bush's exit from the international stage looked like. >> so what if the guy threw a shoe at me? >> that happened during george w. bush's final trip to the two war zones he led america into as president. make no mistake, i certainly do not condone shoe throwing or any other kind of attempted assault or disrespect of a world leader for that matter. but the shoe throwing incident was sort of emblematic of bush era foreign policy. george w. bush did not play well with others on the international stage. and by the time he left office, his foreign policy agenda was deeply unpopular both overseas and at home. and that's where mitt romney's foray into foreign policy leadership comes in. with the modern disasters of his debut behind him, he granted an interview with an israeli newspaper ahead of his visit. the newspaper is part owned by billionaire donor sheldon adelson, so there's that. what is really important about the interview is that mitt romney, what mitt ram gnaw had to say about foreign policy. when asked about his response
released. barack obama, six years and bill clinton, 11 years and george w. bush nine years. is he playing into the hands? >> yes, he is. on a different reason of transparency. mitt romney is different. he is saying to the american people, vote for me because i'm a successful businessman and i can turn around an economy economy. all we are saying is look at your personal economics. you are talking about what you want to do to the american economy and yet, we're seeing evidence that you moved money overseas. we are seeing evidence that you had shell corporations in the caymans and bahamas. that is very material to mitt romney's own argument as to why he should be president. that is why it is more than are you being transparent. is mitt romney willing to show is us the money? let's see why he is so qualified based on his declaration that he is a very good businessman. let's see it, mitt. >> let's see what carl had to say on "morning joe" about this. >> to quote a book title, i think romney's taxes are a game changer. it is extraordinary to have someone running for president that won't show h
the george w. bush administration, a program was set up to bolster this sector to provide government-guarantied loans to try to grow businesses, to try to grow this sector in our economy. fisker, the justin bieber puberty has arrived helper prop, fisker applied for government-backed loans to help grow its business under the george w. bush administration program created for that purpose. that funding got approved once the obama administration took over. now, that wasn't their only investment money, fisker also got funding from a big venture capital firm in california, a firm that is a pretty high-profile firm, among its partners, people like meg whitman, she's been a big high-profile supporter and fundraiser and donor for john mccain last time around and for mitt romney. the same firm also has as a partner a man named al gore, who you might have heard of. the main partner tied to the fisker investment firm is this guy, a john mccain donor and rudy giuliani donor and george w. bush donor. that's the situation in the real world and in the economy. but in politics, the mitt romney campai
's the equiv lnlt of 2004, of democrats saying we're going to bring up george w. bush's alcoholism and the fact until the age of 40, he really didn't have any purpose in his life. well, that might have been relevant for some democrats, you might have wanted to dwell on that. but actually, by that point, he had invaded two countries. he had a record as president. if you want to go out and dislike this president, if you feel negative about him, there are plenty of things to grab on to. what does it do for people who are the gettable voters, the swing voters, the independent voters. they think this is completely off topic. go down this rabbit hole for the republicans. it won't take them any closer to landing a blow on a president, a sitting president they're going for, not a new guy running for nomination. >> yeah, bob shrum, when a campaign decides to go heavily negative in july, what does it tell you about the campaign? >> this is, in 2004, we never brought up the fact that george w. bush had been an alcoholic until 40. it would have hurt us, we knew it would have hurt us. when the stuff about h
to include the affluent and any renewal of the george w. bush era tax cuts. people out there in the country, as you mentioned, are trying to get a job. they see the immense challenges this nation faces. why is congress once again going to the bitter end on partisan issues at the expense of the american people? >> well, i'm ready to work to get people back to work. when bernanke was on capitol hill yesterday he said congress should act quickly to pull the united states back from the -- looking into the abyss with this fiscal cliff. yet the person who threw down the gauntlet was patty murray, leader of the democratic party, who said i would rather go over the cliff. that's what she said, she would rather go over the cliff in terms of what's happening with taxes. i think we should not raise taxes on anyone. the president agreed two years ago we shouldn't raise taxes on anyone in economic times like these, but the economy, luke, is worse now than it was two years ago. so, if it was a bad idea then, it is a worse idea now. i want to keep the tax rates as they are for at least a year, when we can
from what george w. bush tried to push through. >> well, let me describe, actually, there are five things that i believe are necessary to get this economy going. one, take advantage of our energy resources, particularly natural gas, but also coal, oil, nuclear, renewables. that's number one. number two, trade. i want to dramatically increase trade, and particularly with latin america. number three, take action to get america on track to have a balanced budget. now, those three things, by the way are things which we have not been doing over the last few years which i think are essential to getting this economy going again. number four, we've got to show better training and education opportunities for our current workers and for coming workers. and then finally, what i call restoring economic freedom. that means keep our taxes as low as possible, have regulations modern and up to date, get health care costs down. these things will restore economic freedom. >> so, how is it that different from what george w. bush tried to push through? it is not. it is not different from what george w
the previous president, george w. bush, who openly shunned any invitations to the naacp convention. but there was one moment where mitt romney delivered an actual policy position. the reception, that was not very warm. >> if our goal is jobs, we have to stop spending over a trillion dollars more than we take in every year. and so to do that, i'm going to eliminate every non-essential expensive program i can find. that includes obamacare, and i'm going to work to reform and save -- [ boos ] >> 14 seconds. that's how long mitt romney was booed for saying he will repeal obamacare. reporters on the scene said the reaction was stunning. >> i have not heard that kind of sustained booing for mitt romney during the course of this campaign up until what happen today at the naacp. i don't think it really is sort of overstating it. this was perhaps one of the most negative reactions mitt romney has had in the course of his 2012 presidential campaign. >> after the speech, romney said he expected to be booed by the crowd. he told fox news the crowd was with him more than they were against him.
extreme speech and it really hurt george h.w. bush get re-elected that year. so sarah palin's not very popular in this country, especially with certain constituencies that they are trying to woo. mitt romney is in israel trying to get jewish votes in the united states. obama got 78% of jews the last time, in large part because sarah palin was on the ticket. so if he wants those jewish votes in ohio and florida, mitt romney wants to move away from sarah palin. on the other hand, if he moves too far away, he alienates the palin supporters in states like iowa that he's going to need for his base. >> sure. >> so he's in a tough spot on palin. >> very difficult spot there. does liz chainy do damage to her credibility saying that sarah palin is more qualified than barack obama and joe biden combined? i don't know many republicans that will honestly say that. >> that was kind of over the top. she was trying to clean up for her old man and show her loyalty to sarah palin and the tea party folks. they should not be underestimated. the most vivid demonstration of the power of the tea party was a
. ronald reagan. let's go -- i mean every single president, george h.w. bush. >> it's a brutal job. they all leave broken. >> i mean look at obama. he's not broken but his hair is graying. they visibly age. >> bill clinton is not broken. >> oh, wait, i forget. bill clinton is not broken. you know why bill clinton is not broken because he refused to leave. >> he won't leave. >> bill clinton still in the hangar, four months later. >> they're broken when they leave but rehabilitate themselves. even nixon, you couldn't leave more broken than nixon but he becomes this age of saddle river, having journalists out to dinner, rewriting history books. even nixon can come back. there is life after the presidency if you handle yourself. >> history is like one of the reasons this is all so much fun and i think so important ultimately, is remember the way the founders described i think washington described the senate as the saucer in which -- >> the tea cooled. >> the tea cooled. >>hat' what history. it takes our friend michael, says a rule, you can't write about a president in full until 25 yea
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policy pop quiz that george w. bush faced in 2000. a local tv reporter in boston started peppering him with questions about the names of foreign leaders. he flubbed it, he couldn't rather remember a few. this isn't quite the same effect but it is troublesome for somebody who travels, has been the governor and who in the moment seems to be speaking the truth of what he saw. >> joe scarborough and former governor howard dean weighed in this morning as well. here's what he said. >> what's he going to do in israel? look around and go -- >> i'm a tad bit worried about the trip to israel. >> the palestinians should have all of jerusalem and what's he going to do in poland? say hitler was right? >> this is a disastrous trip from one end to the other. do i think he'll recover? probably. but this is probably the worst trip that any presidential candidate has taken. >> robert, worst trip ever? will he recover? >> of course he will recover. let's put this in context. yes, he's running for president of the united states, it's a very important job but he's human and humans make mistakes. obviously
attempts to reach out to the hispanic community. on policy, george w. bush advocated for comprehensive immigration reform. he reached out to democrats like ted kennedy to reach out the broken immigration system in a bipartisan way. he failed, of course, but at least he tried on the policy. and on politics the bush team did so much outreach to the hispanic community that he managed to increase his share of the hispanic vote from 2000 to 2004 when he was dramatically less popular overall. george w. bush got 42% of the hispanic vote in 2004. mitt romney on the other hands, in terms of policy, he's trying to appeal to the public by proposing his immigration policy. he calls it self deportation. he's promising to follow the lead of arizona, of all places, for national immigration law. that sort of outreach has earned him an appeal with hispanic voters that is, look at that, 40 points below president obama. he's even down 18 points from what george w. bush did with hispanic voters. the romney campaign is trying to move the hispanic voters. want to know how? they released this ad yesterday. i
's support of same-sex marriage, and also said he has a soft spot for george w. bush because of what he did for aids. but he added, quote, i'm glad he's not in power anymore. and george w. bush himself seems to agree. he told the hoover institute it was awesome being president for eight years but he doesn't miss it. bush said he has, quote, no desire for fame and power anymore. he said, quote, i crawled out of the swamp and i'm not crawling back in. and that is your morning dish of scrambled politics. >>> now here's your "first look" at how wall street will kick off the day. the dow opens at 12,805 after rising 78 points yesterday. the s&p gained 10, the nasdaq added 13. taking a look at overseas trading this morning, in tokyo the nikkei was down 28 points while in hong kong the hang seng tumbled 215. stocks rose tuesday after fed chair ben bernanke told congress the central bank would consider ways to stimulate growth if the economy further weakens. bernanke's lack of specifics before a senate committee drove stocks lower in early trade. he did say the economy is suffering but eventually j
the last ten years, since george w. bush forged a very close relationship with former british prime minister tony blair, with whom he was not an ideological soul mate. here was an opportunity for mitt romney and david cameron, peas in a pod politically, both conservatives to try and establish some kind of alliance that could take them both forward. and instead, mitt romney has found himself causing david cameron to come out and push back on this issue of the olympics, because as chris ship knows, better i think than any of us, david cameron's own credibility is at stake over the success or failure of these olympic games. >> well, let's look at romney trying to clean up the mess. but i do want to remind our viewers here in the states of what david cameron did to take a shot at him in the morning. let's take a look at this morning on the "today" show, our big morning show here. mitt romney tried to end the static he had stirred up with a "nightly news" interview he did with brian williams. he did it by complimenting now. he has switched in the past just about everything. here he is sw
gallop puts president obama's approval rating to george w. bush than any other recent president. obama's approval rating for his 14th quarter in office averages out to 46.8. 46.8. that puts him a hair under where george w. bush was at this point in his presidency at 47.9. now, bush, of course, beat john kerry in a close race to win his second term. he won by 3 million votes. we'll be right back. >>> welcome back to "hardball." the shooting rampage in colorado seared in our mind, names like virginia tech, jonesboro, arkansas, columbine. these tragedies never lead to tougher gun control ever. there's a horrific incident, gun control advocates plead their case, make noise for awhile and then the issue fades away. tom's son daniel was killed in the columbine shooting 13 years ago. since then he's become a gun control advocate founding the group cease-fire colorado. mark halperin is in touch with politics, an msnbc senior analyst. let me go to mr. mouser. i can only have sympathy for you, sir, i can't imagine the loss of a son. that stays with you every moment of your life. why does the nee
out to 46.8. 46.8. that puts him a hair under where george w. bush was at this point in his presidency at 47.9. now, bush, of course, beat john kerry in a close race to win his second term. he won by 3 million votes. we'll be right back. still make you take notice. there are a million reasons why. but your erectile dysfunction that could be a question of blood flow. cialis for daily use helps you be ready anytime the moment's right. you can be more confident in your ability to be ready. and the same cialis is the only daily ed tablet approved to treat ed and symptoms of bph, like needing to go frequently or urgently. tell your doctor about all your medical conditions and medications, and ask if your heart is healthy enough for sexual activity. do not take cialis if you take nitrates for chest pain, as this may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. do not drink alcohol in excess with cialis. side effects may include headache, upset stomach, delayed backache or muscle ache. to avoid long-term injury, seek immediate medical help for an erection lasting more than four hours. if you have
very long years of george w. bush and dick cheney. part of the republican wisdom about what happened in 2008 is simply that john mccain wasn't disgusting enough. that john mccain wasn't willing to indulge that enraged batty old ladies of his audience who heard somewhere that obama is an arab. part of the republican establishment thinks the lesson of 2008 is john mccain was too decent. if you wallow with the birthers and he's a secret muslim folks, if you run your campaign out of the comment section of youtube videos about the panama canal and the muslim brotherhood taking over the state department, part of them thinks that's how you win. the question is are they right? >>> celebrating success instead of attacking and denigrating makes america strong. that's the right course for this country. his course is extraordinarily foreign. >> the course we're on right now is foreign to us. it changes america. >> this idea of criticizing and attacking success, of demonizing those in all walks of life who have been successful, is something which is so foreign to us, we simply can't understand it
, george w. bush never did anything like this. >> worse than dubya you're saying? >> i can't imagine george w. bush doing this. i can't imagine that. he had some sophistication about foreign affairs. this is shocking to me. >> krystal, this is one of those days where i have to say i appreciate the spirit of the british press. they are willing to step right up there and say what they mean. >> yeah. and you grabbed some amazing material. when i was prepping for this segment, i could have gone on for hours because there were so many fantastic tweets and quotes and headlines and so much material to work with. but honestly for mitt romney, there were essentially two goals for this trip, right? to sort of run around looking vaguely presidential and to sort of slyly remind people of his own olympic success. and in one day he's managed to kill both of those things by insulting everyone and looking the opposite of presidential. looking like he can't even handle, you know, the relationship that should have been the easiest, going to the olympics, going to our friends. it really is an incredible thing
george w. bush let loose with african dancer during malaria awareness day ceremony in the rose garden in 2007 and showed off his drumming capabilities. wait. here's the best, favorite part. here comes. and -- here comes -- he's doing the hand jive thing. there it is. that, right there. that guy is smooth. he is so good. >>> still ahead on "way too early," why are you awake? you're moving, tweets, texts, e-mails are next and "morning joe" now just moments away. >>> asked you, why are you awake? we have your answers. >> who writes, we think you're playing coy with your sports knowledge. fes up. >> i have you all fooled. all fooled. thanks, john. "morning joe" starts right now. ♪ >>> 0-2 the count, runner at first, one out. fly ball into left. bryce harper. can't see it. it goes behind him. it's two on with one out. a at no point did he act like he couldn't see it until it basically landed behind him. >> nobody is there to help him. no short stop. too deep for the short stop to come out. here he lost the ball. >> wow. >> good morning. a live shot there for you of washington, d.c. it is
w. bush. >>> still, some members of the audience gave romney credit for simply taking the time to address the convention. but that doesn't mean the audience agreed with what he was saying. >> i'm going to eliminate every nonessential expensive program i can find. that includes obama care, and i'm going to work to reform and save -- [ crowd booing ] >> romney said he anticipated a tough response from the crowd and following the speech, he told a group of donors quote, your friends who like obama care, you remind them of this -- if they want more stuff from the government, tell them to go vote for the other guy. more free stuff. but don't forget, nothing is really free. it has to be paid for by people in the private sector creating goods and services, end quote. the obama campaign said in statement at the naacp leaders in the african-american community recognize the devastating impact mitt romney's policies would have on working families. >>> a new campaign ad from the obama campaign accuses romney of supporting tax breaks for special interests over the needs of the middle class.
w. bush. pent state officials concealed critical facts instead of protecting young boys. that's the scathing conclusion of an eight-month inquiry into the jerry sandusky scandal. >> reporter: former fbi director louis freeh said it was fear of bad publicity which kept officials from revealing details to the public regarding jerry sandusky's contact with young boys. >> the most powerful men at penn state failed to take any steps for 14 years to protect the children sandusky victimized. >> reporter: the report pored over documents. freeh blasted former president graham spanier, athletic director tim curly, vice president gary schultz and paterno for l inaction. >> nobody even spoke to sandusky. not one of those four persons, including the coach, who was a few steps away from his office. there's no end case anybody spoke to him. >> reporter: throughout the investigation all have denied knowing the full extent of sandusky's actions up. >> should know our hearts remain heavy and we are deeply ashamed. >> reporter: on campus thursday, a dark day and disblae. >> i'm disappointed that
that former president george w. bush and form h.w. bush will both miss the convention. they both decided to skip and one cites health reasons. >>> massachusetts is being considered as the keynote speaker at the democratic convention in september. >>> and "newsday" is reporting that the rental apartment that president obama lived in while studying in columbia, new york, in 1981 is up for grabs. the president paid $360 in rent. well, the price now is $2400. yep. >>> and in a speech event someday louisiana's president hugo chavez calls the capitalist elite like mitt romney. he says deep down he's a good guy. that's your morning dish of scrambled politics. >>> and now here's your first look at how wall street will kickoff the day. the saw opens as 12,822. the s&p tumbled 13 and the nasdaq plunged 40. >>> taking a look at overseas trading this morning, in tokyo the nikkei shot down 161 points while in hong kong the hang seng plummeted 587. >>> so far earning season has been much better than expected but this week reports from three big companies will put the trend to the test. apple reports t
his, you know, republican predecessor, george w. bush, just at the end, said, i'm not going to go, and forbade his schedulers to move him through to the protocols of showing up at the big, plaqblack conventio. but on the other hand, i thought, my god, i have to be grateful that you would take me seriously as a citizen. that i have somehow proved to be outside the arc and literally the pale and pigment of the larger american political makeup that somehow you have to condescend, and i should be grateful that you took me seriously, as a voting constituency, as a human being? and i thought, also, about all of the meanings of race that circulate around mitt romney. the fact that as a mormon, his own particular region had a racial animus and a hostility towards african-american people. and i remember mormons coming to my door, telling me about the cursing of a certain kind of black lineage, but despite that, we could serve in some kind of subsection of a junior capacity, a junior associate, and also ran. and so i thought about that. but the fact that he was moving forward. but he wasn't
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's a pattern here. there's a history of barack obama released 12 years. george w. bush released eight years of tax returns. bill clinton eight years. ronald reagan at least six years. romney -- willard romney, just two years. even his father when he was running for president, george romney, released 12 years. so it's the appearance that you're not being transparent. >> right. what's really remarkable about this is that mitt romney very well could become president and he could do it while going through less of a vetting than his own nominees will go through. you know, you can't be a deputy assistant secretary at the department of transportation giving up the amount of information that he's giving up. so -- and i don't think he's going to be able to get away with only releasing this one year. but we don't know what's in those returns. maybe he made the calculation what's in those returns is so damaging politically to him he'd rather take this heat. maybe he took some tax amnesty a couple years ago and that's why he doesn't want to do it. >> but, ryan, when you look at that and i'm stepping on
and the candidates who win and watching george w. bush do this through two elections, express confidence and faith in america's future. now, there are r plenty of bromide patriotism in romney's speeches, but the core argument he has is negative. and this is very much the framework the democrats had in 2004 about a different problem, the war in iraq. then you had a president who said i know this is tough, but we've got to stick with it, stay the course and we're going to make it to victory. now, the fs a weird looking victory for him, but that was his sales pitch and you had john kerry saying this is terrible, a disaster. i don't know where i stand or where i did before or where i'm going to stand, but in any case, it's going really badly. people would rather have somebody saying i know this is tough, but i have a way out and america always finds its way out. that's where we're seeing in mirror image today. >> karen, as we said, it's a study in contrast today on the campaign trail and there's one area it's stark. just in terms of pure optic, how does an image like the one we saw of the president in
in the words of george w. bush, but how do you go on a big presidential trip as a presidential candidate and not going to afghanistan? how do you not go to where we're still at war? in an interview today with brian williams, he turned down the chance, but if you compare his foreign policy and obama's foreign policy, you see that while mitt is good at using the tough sounding words that have worked so well for republicans for a generation, he's less good at actually differentiating himself from the president. joining us now is spencer ackman, national security writer, a friend of mine, and somebody who has actually dug deep into the foothills of romney's foreign policy. good to see you. >> good to see you. >> so you wrote a great piece today, and the title was the five thinks we learned about how mitt could run the world. number one is he seems to run the world when it comes to afghanistan, egypt, and iran a lot like obama is running the world. >> a lot like if romney hired obama's aides but they had nothing but bad things to say about themselves. you get a lot of rhetoric about how this
forward as a nation and not go back to the policies of george w. bush which brought about the whole economic crisis. >> let me ask about the tax cuts expiring. my position in the senate democrats is the gop pledge, obviously not to vote to raise taxes, can be gotten around by letting the tax cuts expire on january 1st and then vote on a tax cut for those who make less than 2$250,000 a year. let me play for you what minority leader mitch mcconnell said. >> democrats in congress are now saying that they would rather see taxes go up on every american at the end of the year than let about 1 million businesses keep what they earn now. >> is he right and where do you see showdown going? >> no, he is not right. we will have a vote next week. it will give 100% of the people a tax break on the first $250,000 of income. beyond that, if you are over that, your income over that is taxed at the bill clinton rates. those rates were fair and just. those rates led us to 23 million jobs created and a surplus instead of deficits. mitch mcconnell should join hands with us. let's get it done. that mean
h.w. bush and in 2004 by george w. bush against john kerry, the swift boating. all three of these politicians come from massachusetts. i wonder if it's something in the water there. but what you're seeing is very carefully constructed box. there are small nails that go into the box and there's some big rivets that go in there. the small nails are things like this controversy the last three or four days of whether he was -- whether romney was in charge of bain capital from 1999 to 2002, but the biggest piece of this argument are the tax returns. romney is going to be hammered on these tax returns until he releases them, and a number of republicans are now saying that. >> let me show you also the way the romney campaign has counter-attacked because they have released an ad featuring journalists. watch this. >> when the president was elected, he talked about hope and change. whatever happened to hope and change? now it seems he's just coming right out of the box with these old-fashioned negative ads. >> by starting negative, by going extremely tough and extremely hard, looki
, he had this little george w. bush kind of smirk on his face, like he kind of like he knew he was going to get it, he kind of wanted it and sort of enjoyed it a little bit. >> well, i thought -- >> i don't agree with it but he went in there wanting to get booed for something. he didn't want to just get -- >> i'm not sure of that. i think this is really as david said, a replay partly of 2000. when you had george bush who went out as a compassionate conservative and he wasn't really trying to be necessarily compassionate to black voters. he was really trying to tell swing voters, swing white voters, independents, that you know, i'm not as bad as you think i am, nor is this party. i think this is a part of a replay in a very closely contested race. >> and it's worth noting that george w. bush eventually gave up on relations with the naacp saying he had a virtually nonexistent relationship with them. i do wonder if it does change the minds of independent voters who saw that. the best moments were when romney was being self-effacing, even in the beginning when he said he was speaki
you think that it's not effective for the obama camp to keep blaming george w. bush and what they inherited? >> i wouldn't blame president bush but i would continue to point out i said earlier, andrea, it's good for people to remember that we were losing 750,000 jobs a month when the president took over. that's what he's inherited. though 84,000 may not sound like much in terms of a gain, it's a whole lot better than losing 750,000. i think he's doing the right thing there. he's also doing the right thing in stressing his jobs bill. his jobs bill contained 11 separate components, almost all of which republicans had supported in the past, and they essentially stonewalled him and stopped any progress from things that were like $50 billion of spending on infrastructure we know creates well-paying jobs on the construction sites and back in our factories, and it's hard to understand why they would obstruct that type of initiative. >> what about the tax cuts? michael steele, do you think the republicans really have a great talking point when they talk about tax cuts for millionaire
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